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About the screenshots uploads
Hi, greetings.
I noted that you're uploading quite a few screenshots. I would not say that doing so is not proper, but there are a few points that hopefully could be useful for you. Well I do admit there is not any specific guideline for that, I can attempt a rule-by-decree chance tho
- Screenshots without visible changes may not be uploaded in a high volume, it appears to me that those screenshots would not be notable after all;
- There is no real reason for just uploading every SS from the library app, especially those without notable changes. These were done under a different criteria and was rather high in volume, which would, unfortunately, cause a little bit of heavy burden to the server;
- Not sure whether proper to say so, but for those builds that are not *yet* shared publicly (but someone here do have access to), we (or just I) do not consider them as unleaked that require documenting all available screenshots, so just those basic screenshots shall be OK enough. Of course if there're any visible change just ignore what I said above.
SO, just try not to upload too much screenshots that contain no visible change, especially those too generic to even look at (SETUP.exe time). This is just an advice/suggestion, as well as I figured out its not a bad time to make the requirements clearer, this message shall only represent my own ideas though.
Have a good day, regards, --喵喵喵~~ 2023年1月26日 (四) 12:09 (CST)
- Hello. Sorry for the long answer. I thought it would be nice to upload images from the BW Library to the Wiki page, because not everyone has access to this application (I don't know, version 12.11 Lite, it seems to be the latest), and it would greatly enhance the page, because most of the pages here they have only one screenshot and a small description. captainlinux8880（讨论） 2023年1月31日 (二) 22:01 (CST)
- Hi. Those with changes are entirely OK imo, but just those without any visible changes are not so convincing for me. Some builds are just that boring, and it's nevertheless impossible to make the pages full since MS may had changed nothing visible. Thank you. Regards, --喵喵喵~~ 2023年2月3日 (五) 17:18 (CST)
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Display title would be a hard thing to accomplish considering the large volume of pages. I understand it might look more accurate, but since what have been done is impossible to reverse, then just let it go tho. Maybe a better plan would be made in the future, but now let's put this down :) Regards, --喵喵喵~~ 2023年2月3日 (五) 17:22 (CST)
- OK! captainlinux8880（讨论） 2023年2月3日 (五) 19:01 (CST)
Naming rules (broken link)
Hello. I noticed a broken link on this page: https://wiki.betaworld.cn/%E7%89%B9%E6%AE%8A:%E4%B8%8A%E4%BC%A0%E6%96%87%E4%BB%B6 (重要提示:请上传图像文件前详细阅读有关上传图像的命名规则：关于 BetaWorld 百科流媒体命名的相关方案。)
It refers to a closed forum. I think it should be replaced. Regards, captainlinux8880（讨论） 2023年2月4日 (六) 20:14 (CST)
No need to remove unused parameters
Just leave them there for future use. Th1r5bvn23（讨论） 2023年2月4日 (六) 21:47 (CST)
- Ok. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年2月4日 (六) 21:50 (CST)
No need to change IA64 to IA-64
It's one of acceptable abbreviation and it won't cause any confusion. There's no need to change that. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年2月9日 (四) 09:47 (CST)
- Alright. It's just that the architecture is called IA-64, not IA64. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年2月9日 (四) 17:24 (CST)
New versions of the BetaWorld Library application?
Hi all. A small question about the BetaWorld Library application. Is this app closed as well as the forum and download center? Or are there newer versions, with new builds, than version 12.10? Thanks. Regards, captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年2月10日 (五) 21:46 (CST)
- The library app is functionally replaced by this wiki and won't be updated frequently. IMO this wiki provides adequate information so that the library app is not much needed. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年2月10日 (五) 22:44 (CST)
Why moving all the NFOs into template pages alone?
I don't understand, what's the reason? --随便问我（留言） 2023年2月17日 (五) 20:41 (CST)
- Reducing the volume of pages and creating the NFO as a separate document. In my opinion, the page looks much more compact this way. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年2月17日 (五) 21:36 (CST)
- As I wrote earlier, just undo the changes if you see fit. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年2月18日 (六) 01:06 (CST)
- For discussions, just write to me here :) captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年2月18日 (六) 01:21 (CST)
有什么关于Build 9388是Fake的直接证据吗？
如题，注意到Build 9388被从Windows 8.1页面移除了，理由是Fake，有什么比较直接的证据能证明这一点吗？--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年2月17日 (五) 23:38 (CST)
- https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28151
- https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28146 captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年2月17日 (五) 23:40 (CST)
Do not add additional space around template and title
Instead, delete additional space around template and title. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年2月19日 (日) 09:18 (CST)
- This is because the font when editing the page is too small for me and I have to split the text to read it and then I forget to reset it. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年2月19日 (日) 19:57 (CST)
Do not use reflist template, and do not modify certain architectures
The "reflist" template will be removed in the future. Also do not change "IA64" into "IA-64" as it's not necessary. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年2月24日 (日) 11:18 (CST)
- I don't change the architecture after you asked me to. What is the reason for removing reflist? It is a new template, a new syntax that just replaces the old. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年2月24日 (五) 16:54 (CST)
- The "reflist" template is not native therefore it could be slow to load, while providing no benefit over the "references" tag as there's no multiple citing format on this wiki. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年2月24日 (五) 17:35 (CST)
- Ok. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年2月24日 (五) 17:38 (CST)
哦，我明白了，就是{{reflist}}虽然和<references/>等效，但是现在为了统一代码，我们就都得把前者改成后者了，是这个意思吗？
Oh, I understand. Although it（the template {{reflist}}） is equivalent to<references/>, now in order to unify the code, we all need to change the former to the latter. Is that the meaning?--小土豆410051040（留言） 2023年8月13日 (日) 19:00 (CST)
- Just use the
<references/>tag, instead of{{reflist}}template. The<references/>tag loads faster. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年8月17日 (四) 00:57 (CST)
关于MS Equipment:E703232
这个图片有啥出处信息吗，感觉可以记录一下--Sake（留言） 2023年3月7日 (二) 21:52 (CST)
- That's all I could find. Perhaps you will have better luck. :) captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年3月8日 (三) 00:13 (CST)
Do not remove extra new lines
They are for separating paragraphs.— 以上是Th1r5bvn23 (讨论 • 贡献) 的未签名留言。
- emmmm...
- ...Or did I misunderstand this message? captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年4月14日 (五) 15:27 (CST)
请求https://wiki.betaworld.cn/MS_Equipment:E201713来源
如题。--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年4月16日 (日) 09:33 (CST)
- https://assemblergames.org/viewtopic.php?t=61152&start=40#p891945 captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年4月16日 (日) 16:53 (CST)
- [1]这个修订版本加入的链接我没找到图片在哪--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年6月12日 (一) 03:04 (UTC)
- Looks like the original image has been removed. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月12日 (一) 18:30 (CST)
- [1]这个修订版本加入的链接我没找到图片在哪--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年6月12日 (一) 03:04 (UTC)
EDIT: Do you mean E1834222 and E1834226? captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月12日 (一) 18:33 (CST)
https://www.cool3c.com/article/154814
I may have mixed up the links because I found a lot of devices, sorry about that. Now I've fixed everything. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月12日 (一) 18:40 (CST)
Bug?
Hello. I want to ask a question. Recently, I've noticed a little oddity on this wiki, namely the wiki logo and the first item "首页" are highlighted with red rectangles. What is this? captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年4月19日 (三) 02:32 (CST)
- Seems to be focus rectangle from the accessibility tools, is this presenting in other places? It might be simply Microsoft Edge running crazy which is somehow their norm in some way. Lol --喵喵喵~~ 2023年4月19日 (三) 10:25 (CST)
- Perhaps this is really the fault of MS Edge, since I don’t see this on my phone in Chrome. Although, Edge didn't have this before either :D captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年4月19日 (三) 13:48 (CST)
No need to change screenshot names
Underscore is effectively the same as space and there's no need to change it. Don't spam on the changelog. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年5月8日 (一) 10:38 (CST)
- It's not spam, if only because in addition to removing the underscores from the filename, I'm adding other parameters to complete the template. There is no need to write the file name with underscores, just copy the name right after the file has been uploaded. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年5月8日 (一) 16:47 (CST)
- Underscores are automatically generated by upload page and sometimes it's convenient to copy over. Underscores are not added delibrately. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年5月8日 (一) 19:19 (CST)
关于将x64修改为AMD64
这个修改本身是没问题的，但是Infobox是按照字母顺序排序的，如果要修改的话请确保修改后AMD64（M）位于ARM64（R）之前，谢谢--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年5月8日 (一) 23:26 (CST)
- Alright. Thanks. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年5月9日 (二) 03:28 (CST)
MS Equipment:E811974
Images are available on the Crystalradio forum. Does anyone here have access to it? We could download images and document the device. Link: http://www.crystalradio.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=933638 captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年5月12日 (五) 23:06 (CST)
- 似乎是被矿石收音机论坛的管理员删了，有账号也没用。你在哪看到的？--Sake（留言） 2023年5月13日 (六) 15:56 (CST)
- I found in the Baidu pictures, and then I went to the source. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年5月13日 (六) 16:25 (CST)
请勿在句子的标点符号后添加额外的空格
中文的全角标点不需要添加额外空格--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年5月23日 (二) 08:22 (CST)
- What extra spaces are you talking about? captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年5月23日 (二) 17:05 (CST)
- 例如https://wiki.betaworld.cn/index.php?title=Non-MS_Equipment:V535389&oldid=53731，在“但”字之前出现了额外的空格。--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年5月23日 (二) 17:09 (CST)
- OK. Clear. Thanks. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年5月23日 (二) 17:15 (CST)
- 例如https://wiki.betaworld.cn/index.php?title=Non-MS_Equipment:V535389&oldid=53731，在“但”字之前出现了额外的空格。--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年5月23日 (二) 17:09 (CST)
请避免使用冲突的编号
例如https://wiki.betaworld.cn/index.php?title=MS_Asset&diff=53463&oldid=53462，此外已经确定的编号也请不要修改，即使没有页面。--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年5月24日 (三) 08:15 (CST)
- The only thing I changed was if I noticed repetitions. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年5月24日 (三) 16:58 (CST)
请不要编辑带有WIP模板的页面
注意WIP模板的内容--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年5月27日 (六) 20:04 (CST)
- Don't forget to add the "references" tag at the end. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年5月27日 (六) 22:10 (CST)
没必要添加userbox参数
userbox是一个可选参数，没必要在正常页面上添加空白的这一参数--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年6月3日 (六) 07:56 (CST)
- It is intended rather to complete the template, as well as other unused parameters. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月3日 (六) 13:59 (CST)
关于Infobox
我认为对|previous=及|next=进行加粗没有任何意义。顺带一提，请不要将“微软”写作“微軟”--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年6月7日 (三) 20:15 (CST)
- "请不要将“微软”写作“微軟”"
Why? You yourself wrote, use Chinese characters where possible. This is a valid abbreviation in Chinese. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月7日 (三) 20:22 (CST)
- “微软”是简体字而“微軟”是繁体字，在进行一般性描述（指并非引用原文）时，应使用简体字文本。--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年6月7日 (三) 20:50 (CST)
- Strange. I don't think I've ever used traditional Chinese here. How did it come about? LOL. 🤣🤣🤣 captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月7日 (三) 20:54 (CST)
- 我有一个疑问，为什么Windows 11 Build 21380的概述页中“香港電腦通訊節”这七个字用的是繁体字？这只是一个活动的名称而已，没必要用繁体字吧。--小土豆410051040（留言） 2023年8月26日 (六) 19:49 (CST)
- It is written in quotation marks, so this is the original text. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年8月26日 (六) 20:00 (CST)
- 我有一个疑问，为什么Windows 11 Build 21380的概述页中“香港電腦通訊節”这七个字用的是繁体字？这只是一个活动的名称而已，没必要用繁体字吧。--小土豆410051040（留言） 2023年8月26日 (六) 19:49 (CST)
- Strange. I don't think I've ever used traditional Chinese here. How did it come about? LOL. 🤣🤣🤣 captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月7日 (三) 20:54 (CST)
- “微软”是简体字而“微軟”是繁体字，在进行一般性描述（指并非引用原文）时，应使用简体字文本。--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年6月7日 (三) 20:50 (CST)
STOP adding more private builds
If I don't list a build as private, there is always a reason. Can you just question yourself if you know the origin of those builds? Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 10:57 (CST)
- I compared the information with BetaWiki and the BA database. EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT THERE has been labeled that way. Otherwise, show where they are all. Thanks. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 15:48 (CST)
All the pages have the origin of corresponding build and you just need to click in and read them. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 17:01 (CST)
Btw, you know that BA FTP rejects certain beta builds, don't you? Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 17:03 (CST)
- "All the pages have the origin of corresponding build and you just need to click in and read them." Many builds of Windows 10 Mobile don't have any description other than one screenshot. Some have been found on MS Equipment devices that are not public, such as build 14256.
"Btw, you know that BA FTP rejects certain beta builds, don't you?" On BetaWiki, all those builds were marked as either "unconfirmed" or "confirmed" but not leaked. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 17:27 (CST)
- I'm not sure why they did this, but all of those server builds you marked as private are available at Microsoft docker server, as the pages say. BetaWiki admins absolutely know this well as both the tool to generate links and to convert an docker image to regular WIM are made by them. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 17:34 (CST)
- Windows 10 Mobile的问题是大部分被标记的版本似乎都只是Windows Update推送的版本，你可以很轻易地在WU Dump里找到这些版本的下载地址，剩下的少部分版本会找时间标记的--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 17:38 (CST)
- "all of those server builds you marked as private are available at Microsoft docker server" Can you provide a link? And I will update the information on BetaWiki. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 18:03 (CST)
- They were downloaded 5 years ago and unfortunately I've lost the link. Maybe you can ask BetaWiki for them. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 18:16 (CST)
- emmmmm, lol. And more about the build of Windows ME. You said it's a different build than the one you have. Then I have the following questions:
1) How is that build different from yours?
2) Why, if this is a different build, then it wasn't documented on this wiki? captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 18:55 (CST)
That's a normal RTM build with some minor modifications. Did you download it? Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 18:56 (CST)
- I opened a discussion on BetaWiki, I wonder what they have to say. I downloaded it and tested it too. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 19:06 (CST)
- The date is 2000-09-14. It's just RTM. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 19:15 (CST)
- However,
- The date is 2000-09-14. It's just RTM. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 19:15 (CST)
https://betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_Me_build_3000
https://betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_Me_build_3000_(2000-06-16)
strange thing...
captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 19:20 (CST)
- I also noticed that it uses the Windows 98 SE RTM bootloader, lol captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月14日 (三) 19:29 (CST)
Where did the main page of the site go?
Right now, I noticed that the betaworld.cn domain redirects to this Wiki. And when I tried to go to the blog, through the blog.betaworld.cn domain, the message "403 Forbidden" appeared. What's happened? captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 00:09 (CST)
EDIT: Looks like BetaWorld is dead... captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 00:41 (CST)
- blog was shut down because of wordpress security issues and lack of homepage matainance and content for the blog HT5231（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 00:45 (CST)
- Yeah, I have already read the information. Something they were not lucky with the forum and the blog. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 00:47 (CST)
- Although I would also add to the reasons for closing the blog, the inability to leave a comment. In the past, this feature was available, but soon the Chinese government banned comments on personal websites. And from that moment on, the idea of a blog, as such, disappeared. The blog suspects the presence of leaving comments so that people can express their opinion on this or that issue.
- In addition, the site is already over 10 years old, and it has been restarted several times. Personally, I only found out about it in 2019, and tried to get access, but then, in 2020, the site restarted again, changing the domain from .cn to .org, and this site with the forum worked for almost 2 years, and soon the site was restarted again and blog was opened. Many users have simply lost interest in this site, because so many changes in a fairly short time is not very good. There is also a QQ group, but I can't register there.
- This is my personal opinion and you have the right to disagree or agree with it. I just threw my thoughts on paper, and did not want to offend anyone. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 01:14 (CST)
- I think it's not accurate to say "not lucky" BetaWorld Blog was based on WordPress, and the inherent flaws of WordPress led to security issues. I have personally experienced serious security problems with a WordPress-based blog I once set up. BetaWorld is not the developer of WordPress and cannot resolve its flaws, so the issue couldn't be adequately addressed. I think BetaWorld Wiki is also a valuable source of information, so I don't think the closure of the BetaWorld Blog affects the normal operation of BetaWorld. The site owner explained the reason in a QQ group yesterday, and the actual reason is security issues. --Njlyf2011（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 16:41 (CST)
- "Unlucky" in the sense that from 2012 to 2019 they first had a forum, then they restarted on a new domain and opened a new forum, there were only more than 500 participants, which is clearly not enough. The download center was supposed to be open by the end of 2021, but in the end, this was canceled and the blog was opened, which further (I think) reduced the number of users.
- Besides WordPress, there are other blogging platforms (Ghost, Tilda, Blogger) captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 16:52 (CST)
- As far as this Wiki is concerned, I can safely say that the staff here are MUCH nicer than on BetaWiki. Yesterday the BetaWiki admins blocked me for removing broken links from articles linking to the closed BetaWorld blog, saying "Removing content from pages: do not remove references just because the links are dead", and instead of texting me, or writing why they keep links to something that no longer exists, they just banned me for 2 hours. I wanted to write them a message, and then I thought that it makes no sense to talk to the logs and finally scored on them. BetaWiki is shit. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 16:59 (CST)
- A really bad backdoor was uploaded through WordPress so the blog was shut down in emergency. As you said, the blog feels kinda meh because of the lack of commenting function. Due to government policy, there's no way around. Feel free to leave comments here. Sorry for being uncertain, but I did try my best to bring the results. This wiki is the most important part of BetaWorld and I believe it will last as long as BetaWorld goes. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 17:15 (CST)
- @th1r5bvn23, Q: Since you no longer have a site other than this Wiki, do you ever plan to share your exclusive builds in the future? captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 17:29 (CST)
- A really bad backdoor was uploaded through WordPress so the blog was shut down in emergency. As you said, the blog feels kinda meh because of the lack of commenting function. Due to government policy, there's no way around. Feel free to leave comments here. Sorry for being uncertain, but I did try my best to bring the results. This wiki is the most important part of BetaWorld and I believe it will last as long as BetaWorld goes. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 17:15 (CST)
- There will always be a way if needed. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年6月27日 (二) 18:06 (CST)
Request: Windows Vista build 6001.16461
Hello. I'd like to get the source of Windows Vista build 6001.16461. (This is not a closed public build of BetaWorld, so I think I can ask for the source.) The Wiki page says: "Server 2008 FebCTP Automated Installation Kit". When searching, the first link I got was the Microsoft website. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=9085. But after I downloaded the AIK ISO, I extracted WinPE and it turned out to be version 6001.18000, not 6001.16461. Where did you see it? Regards, captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年6月30日 (五) 20:34 (CST)
Tag some edit as "minor"
I would suggest you to tag some of your edit, like remove spacing or wording change, as minor. This would help us filter these edits in the recent change page. Thanks. Th1r5bvn23（留言） 2023年7月3日 (一) 19:13 (CST)
- In fact, I never set this flag, because I did not understand the difference between them. Thanks for the advice. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年7月4日 (二) 01:09 (CST)
关于9468
当前内容和https://www.betaworld.cn/Windows_11:10.0.21380.1001.fs_dev6_flt.210511-1900等页面一样都是为了反映一个进入公开状态的时间节点，无需修正。--蓝色泪雨（留言） 2023年7月31日 (一) 22:00 (CST)
- Build 21380 was found by BW members and immediately uploaded to the public. Build 9468 was found in 2019, so, imo, it is not worth writing that the leak occurred in 2022. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年7月31日 (一) 22:05 (CST)
- It's not regarded as leaked before going public. ——桃花（BetaWorld管理员） 2023年7月31日 (一) 22:24 (CST)
- Hmmmm... ok captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年7月31日 (一) 22:40 (CST)
Is that Vista don’t have ESU Update？
Windows 7 also have ESU,but why vista didn’t have it？白露（留言） 2023年9月11日 (一/月曜日) 23:46 (JST)
- There are. You just need to find the right update and install it. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年9月11日 (一) 23:55 (CST)
Don't make it bold for build reference outside build list
Like in Infobox, just leave them as normal. ——桃花（BetaWorld管理员） 2023年9月13日 (三) 20:06 (CST)
- Links and published builds are not same. captainlinux8880（留言） 2023年9月13日 (三) 20:15 (CST)
- Bold font is only for use inside the build list, not for other references of builds. ——桃花（BetaWorld管理员） 2023年9月13日 (三) 20:22 (CST)